Chapter 5 (Errata by Souchkov,
Mar. 2000)
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91 | In solving problems we are assisted by the laws.... | In solving problems we are assisted by the law... |
91 | What field (already present in the technical system or available freely) can be best used for the new subsystem? | What field (already present in the technical system or available free of charge) can be best used for the new subsystem? |
93 | Which field? Long ago, Alexander S. Popov gave the answer... | Which field? Long ago, in the end of the 19th century, Alexander S. Popov gave the answer... |
93 | ... the whole device weighs less than one kilogram. | ...the whole device weighs less hundred grams. |
95 | The history of technology, engineering, arts and culture | The history of science, technology, engineering, arts and culture |
95 | Problem 54. Test you fantasy: imagine a fantastic plant. | Problem 54. Test you fantasy: imagine a new fantastic biological plant |
96 | Problem 55. _Think of a fantastic beast.... | Problem 55. One more test: Think of a fantastic beast.... |
97 | Inversion ("do it the other way round") | to make italic and underlined |
99 | "This problem lies beyond my competence. If you only gave me a problem in my sphere..." | "This problem lies beyond my competence. If you only gave me a problem in my sphere, I would... " |
100 | Full text of ARIZ (version 85V) can be found in G.Altshuller's book To Find Idea (Nauka, Moscow, 1985, in Russian). | Full text of ARIZ (version 85V) can be found in G.Altshuller's book To Find Idea (Nauka, Novisibirsk, 1985, in Russian) |
100 | Here is a wide selection of tasks of different level... | Here is a wide selection of mini- and maxi-tasks |
c.103 | Mini-problem. Technical system for detection and sealing of holes in glass artifacts, includes a glass product, a conductor, and the flame of the torch. | Mini-problem. Technical system for detection and sealing of holes in glass artifacts, includes a glass product, a conductor, and the flame of the torch. It is necessary to provide quick and accurate sealing of the hole under minimal changes in the system. |
105 | The major mistake in problem solving is attempting to guess the answer. Random.... | Header
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ON A ROAD TO INVENTION The major mistake in problem solving is attempting to guess the answer. Random.... |
105 | b) each 'leap' may prompt a seemingly correct idea which will later create..... | b) a 'leap' may prompt a seemingly correct idea which will later create...... |
105 | From now on, only two components will be borne in mind and the conflict between them will be intensified | From now on, only two components will be borne in mind and the conflict between them will be intensified to full extent. |
105 | Whether the component is the instrument or the artifact depends on its role in the functioning of the 'ailing' system | Whether the component is the instrument or the artifact depends on its role in the functioning of the 'ailing' part of the system |
106 | ...and the instrument (see page 109) | ...and the instrument (see page 110) |
106 | ...there exist but nine kinds of standard contradictions between the artifact and the instrument (see page 109) | ...there exist but nine kinds of standard contradictions between the artifact and the instrument (see page 110) |
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107 | ...the state in which 'the conductor is present' cannot be compromised with the state where 'the conductor is almost present'. What analysis calls for is... | ...the state in which 'the conductor is not removed' cannot be compromised with the state where 'the conductor is almost not removed'. What analysis calls for... |
107 | What analysis calls for is intensification but not alleviation of the conflict | What analysis calls for is intensification (sharpening) but not alleviation of the conflict. |
107 | In Problem 57 the main process is effective sealing of holes, highlighted by Technical contradiction 1 only. | In Problem 57 the main process is effective sealing of holes, highlighted by the pattern of Technical Contradiction 1 only. |
107 | In the Problem about a clothing mill the main process is production of a variety of clothes. That is why Technical Contradiction 1 should be chosen here as well. | In the Problem about a clothing mill the main process is production of a variety of clothes. That is why the pattern of Technical Contradiction 1 should be chosen here as well. |
108 | Intensify the conflict, defining the ultimate state/effect of the components | Intensify the conflict, defining the ultimate state/actions of the components |
110 | TYPICAL CONFLICT
PATTERNS IN INVENTIVE PROBLEMS
Assign numbers of patterns (see revised edition) |
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110 | A produces useful effect on B (solid arrow), but at certain stages negative counteraction (wave arrow) occurs. | A produces useful effect on B (solid arrow), but permanently or at certain stages negative counteraction (wave arrow) occurs. |
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115 | Give the idea of a low-cost device that adequately evaluates barber's performance | Give the idea of an extremely low-cost device that adequately evaluates barber's performance |
Chapter 5 (Errata Pointed
out by Nakagawa, July 2000)
P L E/Q | Is | Has to be (or Question/Comment) |
91 t7 E | towards the tool finally and to the article | towards the tool and finally to the article |
91 t10-11 Q | is a technical system's part or a natural of technical process | [Difficult to understand the word 'natural' here.] |
94 t11 E | there is an hour of waiting. | there is an hour of waiting. ' |
96 b4 E | dwarves (Battleground, Stephen King | dwarves (Battleground, Stephen King |
97 t14-16 E | Omnipotence - limitations of functions (the object's functions cover a large class of phenomena or, conversely, a universal fact has a restricted effect). | Omnipotence - limitations of functions (the object's functions cover a large class of phenomena or, conversely, a universal fact has a restricted effect). |
97 t16 Q | with unlimited capabilities (I, robot. I. Asimov) | with unlimited capabilities (I, robot., I. Asimov) |
97 t17-18 E | (The Proud Robot, H. Kuttner) | (The Proud Robot, H. Kuttner) |
97 b17 E | young though all his life | young through all his life |
97 b9 Q | send a (Time in Advance, | [Some word is missing before "(".] |
97 b8-7 E | Inversion ("do it the other way round") - the most common device (a function, property or the entire object is changed to its opposite). | Inversion ("do it the other way round") - the most common device (a function, property or the entire object) is changed to its opposite. |
97 b6 E | (Star Diaries, S. Lem) | (Star Diaries, S. Lem) |
99 t8 E | The second fallacy has mush to do with | The second fallacy has much to do with |
104 b7 E | a machine, as spool, threads, | a machine, a spool, threads, |
105 b19 S | according to the conditions, | according to the problem conditions, |
110 Fig. 5 E | Coupled effect A B1 | Coupled effect A B |
110 b14 E | of B on C (e.g. treatment | of C on B (e.g. treatment |
110 Fig. 7 Q | [The figures for "Incomplete effect or inaction" seem not match well with the description.] | |
110 b8 E | provide the effect of B | provide the effect on B |
112 t9 Q | any 'things for sitting on'? The same | any 'things for sitting on'?" The same |
115 b14 S | 2. Go through steps 1 and 2: | 2. Go through steps 1 and 2 of ARIZ: |
118 t13 E | the elastic film of transparent cellulose nitrate | the plastic film of transparent cellulose nitrate |
Chapter 5 (Question/Comments
by Nakagawa and Answers by Souchkov)
P L E/Q/C | Is | Has to be [or Questions] | Answer |
90 t7-8 Q | Corollary to the law: to make a part of the system controllable it is necessary to provide power conductivity between given part and the control unit | [You use the word "power" here without any explanation. Is it different from "energy"? You seem to distinguish these words in some sentences in this section 5.1 but do not in other sentences. Please add some explanation as a footnote. I also feel one small paragraph should be given in the text to explain this Corollary.] | The confusion
might occur due to the use of the word "power" in other TRIZ translations
from Russian to English. Sometimes, you can see the title "The law of power
conductivity", which is not correct. Actually, when we are talking about
the law of energy conductivity, we are talking about the conductivity of
a flow of energy through a system, and not about the power. We should use
the term power as a characteristic of the energy flow at a given point
(as follows from System Theory).
In this particular example, must be: "Corollary to the law: to make a part of the system controllable it is necessary to provide energy conductivity between given part and the control unit" [Sorry, editing of the English translation of book was too overwhelming and I had that not much time resources at our start-up.] |
90 t15-16 S | technical system should not only be a suitable power conductor but should also operate with minimal energy losses | technical system should not only be a suitable energy conductor but should also operate with minimal energy losses | yes |
90 t17-18 Q/S | withdrawal of energy with ready-made artifact, etc.). | [The word "ready-made" seems not suitable.] withdrawal of energy together with artifact worked upon, etc.). | yes |
90 b4 Q | in the following order: gravitational - mechanical - thermal - magnetic - electric - electromagnetic. | [The order "magnetic - electric" seems reasonable here, but I saw the reverse order "electric - magnetic" in some context in TRIZ literature. Would you give us some comments? And, I feel, in many cases thermal parts are less controllable than mechanical parts.] | There are several different views in TRIZ concerning this particular order. In Russian, it was easy to remember the word "MATChEM" (mechanical ? acoustic ? thermal ? chemical ? electric ? magnetic), that's why you can meet other versions which are drawn from the past. I tend to believe that Salamatov's version is more correct since electromagnetic field can be controlled by switching on/off electric current, therefore it is regarded as having a higher degree of controllability than magnetic field which can be only controlled via changing distance or Curie Point. And in general, thermal field is regarded as more controllable field rather than mechanical field (due to operating at micro-level). |
91 t10-11 Q | is a technical system's part or a natural of technical process | [What is the meaning of "a natural" here?] | means non-artificially created, like the temperature of a stone. |
91 t12-13 S | The assumption that technical system needs power conductivity is already part of the answer. | The assumption that technical system needs energy conductivity throughout its parts and power conductivity between its control unit and the parts to be controlled is already part of the answer. | yes |
91 b19-17 S | Is there good conductivity between the technical system (robot) parts and the control unit (human worker)? | Is there good power conductivity between the technical system (robot) parts and the control unit (human worker)? | yes |
91 b14-13 S | An instant connection is necessary: click! - and the robot is off. | An instant disconnection is necessary: click! - and the robot is off. | yes |
91 b6 S | (eyes can sight an object in no time!). Now you are sure to solve the next problem | (eyes
can sight an object in no time!).
Now you are sure to solve the next problem [New paragraph] |
yes |
92 t1 Q | The radiators of such cars are equipped with an extra infrared headlight. | [What do you mean by "radiators" here? Is it the parts for heat discharge of the engine? Or do you mean just the "front" part of a car?] | Radiator here means a metal grid residing on the front part of the car for supplying cold stream of air when the car is moving to an engine to cool down the engine. But the "front part" will be ok too. |
92 t17-18 S | This gives the idea to use infrared rays (infrared heating) or microwave frequencies (microwave heating). | This gives the idea to use infrared rays (infrared heating) or microwave radiation (microwave heating). | yes |
92 b16-17 S | Also, the system should have good conductivity to allow a discharge of excessive energy; | Also, the system should have good energy conductivity to allow a discharge of excessive energy; | yes |
92 b17 E | for example, the quick withdraw of friction heat so as to | for example, the quick withdrawal of friction heat so as to | yes |
94 t9-10 S | But what if it is necessary to change several fabrics on one and the same pattern during one shift? | But what if it is necessary to change several fabrics of different colors on one and the same pattern during one shift? | yes |
95 t23 Q/S | One of the researchers into creative mechanics | One of the researchers into creativity mechanism | yes |
97 b8-7 E | Inversion ("do it the other way round") - the most common device (a function, property or the entire object is changed to its opposite). | Inversion ("do it the other way round" - the most common device (a function, property or the entire object) is changed to its opposite). | yes |
98 t5 E | Firstly, do not to reject the tool you chose | Firstly, do not reject the tool you chose | yes |
99 t11-13 S | A clearly-defined problem equals the formulation of its main physical contradiction and stands only one step away from the solution. | A clearly-defined problem equals the formulation of its main technical/physical contradiction and stands only one step away from the solution. | Actually, the original text is correct. When we use ARIZ, we must continue reformulating the problem until a physical contradiction is revealed, despite that we can come up with solution concepts even at some early steps of ARIZ. |
99 b7 Q/C | But the expert may have been misled at any level of the system. | [A number of possible approaches are shown to the car wobbling problem, but the discussion goes on without mentioning which approach should be taken and how the reader should think. We would like to have at least a footnote on this point.] | This particular example is not meant to demonstrate what problem is to be chosen. It only shows that a variety of possible problems can be formulated at different system levels. The goal of the chapter is to define how such the inventive situations are tackled with ARIZ. |
100 t3 C | Problem 57. | [We are going to add a footnote for Japanese readers: See "Enlightened with TRIZ", Nikkei Mechanical, June, 1998, p. 104.] | yes, of course, please add any references you feel would be necessary or desirable |
100 b9-8 Q | ARIZ helps with presenting a problem in terms of physical conflict. | [Here and later, the word "conflict" is used very often with a similar meaning to "contradiction". Is there any difference in using the two words? May we use the terminology "physical contradiction" here?] | In TRIZ,
there is no difference between the words "conflict" and "contradiction".
(as well as in Russian language, the difference is negligible). |
100 b7-6 Q | from determining technical contradiction to revealing physical conflict. | from determining technical contradiction to revealing physical contradiction. [Is this OK?] | yes |
101 t5 S | How does this design work? | How does this design of sealing process work? | yes |
101 t5-7 S | The electrode is inserted into the tube, the external electrode moves past the joint. If a glow is detected, the point of glow is remembered. | The internal electrode is inserted into the tube, while the external electrode moves past the joint. If a glow of a hole is detected, the point of glow is remembered. | yes |
102 t12-13 S | The transition from situation to mini-problem does not mean that we strive to solve this minor problem. | The transition from problem situation to mini-problem does not mean that we strive to solve a minor problem. | yes |
102 b17-16 S | This solution will be easy to implement and will not require considerable changes in the technical system. | The solution to mini-problem will be easy to implement and will not require considerable changes in the technical system. | yes |
102 b16-15 S | It is only when the mini-problem yields no solution that one can proceed to maxi-problem. | It is only when the mini-problem yields no solution that one should proceed to maxi-problem. | yes |
103 b10-9 C | glass artifacts, includes a glass product, a conductor, and the flame of the torch. | [We are going to add a footnote for Japanese readers: To avoid words having specific technological means, the word "electrode" is replaced here by a more general word "conductor".] | yes |
104 | [no enclosure] | [The whole page should be in an enclosure.] | yes |
104 t5 E | (in order expand the variety of clothes) | (in order to expand the variety of clothes) | yes |
105 b19 S | 6. The artifact is the component which, according to the conditions, is subject to any kind of treatment | 6. The artifact is the component which, according to the problem conditions, is subject to any kind of treatment | exactly |
106 b12-11 E | nine kinds of standard contradictions between the artifact and the instrument (see page 109). | nine kinds of standard contradictions between the artifact and the instrument (see page 110). | yes |
108 b9 S | Problem model for Problem 57. Given are a hole, | Problem model for Problem 57: Given are a hole, | yes |
108 b6 S | Problem model for Problem about a clothing mill. Given are | Problem model for Problem about a clothing mill: Given are | yes |
110 Fig. 6 Q | [A to
B: solid arrow,
C to B: solid arrow] |
[A to
B: solid arrow,
C to B: dotted arrow] |
yes |
110 Fig. 7 Q | [top:
A to B: Two solid lines;
middle: A to B: solid arrow; bottom: A to B: dotted arrow] |
[top:
A to B: One solid line and one dotted line;
no middle figure; bottom: A to B: dotted arrow] |
yes |
110 Fig. 8 Q | [A to B: One solid arrow and one dotted waveline.] | [A to B: one dotted waveline.] | yes |
110 Fig. 9 Q | [A to B: dotted arrow] | [A to B: dot and dash arrow] | yes |
111 t1 S | 5.4 FUNDAMENTALS OF STRONG THINKING | 5.4 FUNDAMENTALS OF ADVANCED THINKING | yes |
111 t9 S | But gradually 'mind trips' became longer and more independent. | But gradually our 'mind trips' became longer and more independent. | yes |
111 b4 S | 'Combating terminological inertia'. | 'Combatting terminological inertia'. | yes, (was American English) |
112 t13-15 S | the evolution of humans eliminates the necessity to have certain parts of the body their functions being delegated to the environment | the evolution of humans eliminates the necessity to have certain parts of the body, for their functions being delegated to the environment | yes |
114 t1 S | How the tool is used: | How the tool for transition to ideal objects is used: | yes |
115 Q | [Phase 1 and Phase 2] | [The description of these phases are very useful for readers. We would like to insert reference pages of these tools and methods. I am going to work on this later.] | ok |
115 b14 S | 2. Go through steps 1 and 2: process the initial situation, formulate a mini problem; | 2. Go through steps 1 and 2 of ARIZ: process the initial situation, formulate a mini problem; | yes |
115 b11 S | 4. Go through steps 3 to 8; | 4. Go through steps 3 to 8 of ARIZ; | yes |
117 t20 E | so small that there is not point in rubbing the grains to powder; | so small that there is no point in rubbing the grains to powder; | yes |
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